What? He thinks we have forgotten how he was defending the illegal genocidal settler colony in the past and his hit piece on Jeremy Corbyn in the Guardian?
Your only support for your accusation, "he was defending the illegal genocidal settler colony in the past," is someone else's (also unsupported) accusation.
And you provided no support at all, for a "hit piece on Jeremy Corbyn in the Guardian"; you just linked to a "hit piece" on Owen Jones, in the Huffington Post.
The Huff Po contained a link to something that was (finally) actually written by Jones (still not in the Guardian), which expressed a critical opinion of Corbyn's strategy, but to call it a "hit piece" is beyond hyperbole.
Owen's opinion (nearly a decade ago) was what it was, but what it certainly wasn't, is "a hit-piece."
It was advice. Some of which may have been useful, some of which I don't agree with at all, but clearly a genuine, good-faith opinion.
Thanks for doing the leg work, I'm just so tired, I know that's how they want us, but sometimes someone stepping up to lift the burden is heartwarming. Thank you again 💕
Don't blame me for the fact that it took you four days to find your ass, and failed to change a single thing I said: Calling good-faith criticism, a "hit-piece," is still hyperbole, and it's still nearly a decade-old.
Corbyn knows the difference between criticism and "a hit-piece," (having been exposed to plenty of both).
But then again, so would ANY honest person, who (in good faith) reads criticism that includes:
"Corbyn is a man of principle who has repeatedly been on the right side of history. He was arrested for campaigning against apartheid when Margaret Thatcher was denouncing the ANC as terrorists; he supported LGBT rights when it was “loony left” to do so; he campaigned against Saddam Hussein when our government armed the murderous despot; he later opposed the Iraq war. On the big issues of the day – such as public investment in our economy, tax justice, workers’ rights, the housing crisis, the NHS – he is absolutely right."
... and...
"Corbyn is a decent, honourable and principled man."
... but there is no good faith in your reading of Owen's criticism. You just don't have it in you.
In your head, even calling out your malicious trolling, makes me a "troll." 🤷🏻♀️ So be it. 🖕
Maybe the best example of how hyperbolic & extreme your grudge is, is the fact that eight and a half years later, YOU'RE flinging shit, whereas Jeremy & Owen are just fine:
You're parroting someone else's accusation... which wilfully exaggerates a near-decade-old complaint... in order to smear, and silence, one of Israel's most vocal critics.
Owen Jones spoke at a pro-Zionist conference, has advocated the continuation of Zionist theft of Palestinian land, and famously smeared Corbyn as an “antisemite” with no factual basis. Jones is a clever mouthpiece with which to legitimize liberal Zionism and focus on Jewish supremacist feelings over Palestinian lives.
You're failing to produce any proof (instead you're trying to task me with digging around on your behalf, to find what you're talking about).
More than that, you're not even referring to something that would qualify as proof (you're referring to a third party, whose accusation you're simply repeating).
IS there any proof of your accusation, that Owen has supposedly, "famously smeared Corbyn as an 'antisemite'"?
You're spamming someone else's malign opinion. Opinion is not fact. You're literally just gossiping. Maliciously. To slag-off a critic of Israel.
And the opinion that you're spamming, wilfully exaggerates (and partially fabricates), a near-decade-old complaint... in order to smear (and presumably silence) someone who is, right now, one of Israel's most vocal critics.
It's not Owen, who's acting like an Israeli stooge. You can tell who Israel's stooges are, by the fact that they're trying to silence Israel's critics.
Personally, I want Owen to KEEP speaking out against Israel's savagery, and I don't trust the motives of anyone who is trying to shut him up.
Owen is a supporter of BDS; he has been for years. You'd know that if you had bothered to click the links, and listen to his response to his accusers.
It's amazing, the level of instant-total-perfection-from-birth, that people (who are themselves anything-but-perfect) demand from someone whom they clearly can't find any CURRENT fault with. Owen's detractors need to reach into the past, and even then, they still need to exaggerate the worst things they can find.
What's the point?
Why do they want to shut down such a vociferous critic of Israel?
Given your propensity to credulously repeat defamation, Olly, and your habit of wilfully-ignoring information that doesn't suit your purposes, you'll have to excuse me, if I don't consider your remembered-opinion, and unsubstantiated claim of "numerous examples," to be infallible.
@markjcarney , @bob_zimmer_mp ,@cbc ,@cbcnews , @cbcdaybreaknorth ,@cbcvancouver ,@cbcradiocanada ,@cbcindigenous ,@cbcthenational You know the truth - stand up and speak it! Israel is committing a genocide, the Indigenous population of Palestine are experiencing a holocaust!!!! No amount of money in this world is enough to keep your silence. Speak the truth!!! People matter, all life matters - how can you not see that- your silence and inaction are utterly deplorable 🤬
I genuinely appreciate that Owen is an outspoken defender of Palestinians & Palestine, as well as a vociferous critic of Israel [and its accomplices in the U.K. (and U.S.) government & media.] His good intentions are unmistakable.
Owen doesn't have the solution; none of us do, because the people in positions of power refuse to represent us, and abuse that power to insulate themselves from us. If our "representatives" represented our will, Israel would be isolated, cut off from trade, and prosecuted in accordance with international law.
So we are all left with the same question that Ahmed Alnaouq asks: "If you were a Palestinian, what would you do?"
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P.S. It's disappointing to see that there are some malicious character-assassins in the comment section, spreading false & defamatory accusations against Owen. None of them has provided anything to justify their malign spite; they've only provided a link to someone else's equally-unsupported accusation. Vicious gossips, mindlessly parroting each other, can't undo Owen's tireless advocacy.
Israel won’t let in journalists, kill the Palestinian journalists and try to feed the world BS to form the narrative that favors them. They didn’t count on Palestinian journalists and they on the ground live stream thegenocide
And release the files. Don’t care who’s there, don’t care about worldwide ramifications. Release the files. We’ll start from scratch if that’s what it takes! Dam, think of the girls being raped and taped to use for bribery and coercion
Regarding the bad-faith attacks, which falsely claim that Owen "famously smeared Corbyn as an 'antisemite'":
Asa Winstanley's Electronic Intifada hit-piece on Owen, is full of bad-faith inferences, but the following, is the one that launched a thousand trolls. Asa claimed that Owen, "insisted Corbyn apologize for anti-Semitism that he had not even been guilty of."
That claim was never true. Asa provided a link, but his link proved the OPPOSITE. Asa probably counted on malicious trolls being too lazy to click a link & read a tweet. Here it is:
Asa's own link shows that Owen isn't "insisting" on anything; he's SUPPORTING actions that Jeremy had already taken. Likewise, Owen explicitly states that Jeremy is NOT ANTISEMITIC.
Owen's tweet reads:
"Jeremy Corbyn was right to apologise over the mural. Labour is also right to crack down on anti-Semitism wherever it manifests (and it *must*). The attempts to smear Corbyn personally with anti-Semitism are also wholly false."
Owen further-supplements his own defence of Jeremy, by including a link to a Jewish publication, which also defended the fact that Corbyn is NOT AN ANTISEMITE:
It takes a massive stretch — and a spinning back-flip — to get to where Asa landed, considering what Owen ACTUALLY wrote.
The gossipy trolls who descended on this interview, have taken Asa's half-truths, and then half-truthed the half-truths. But they've REPEATED their accusations a lot. Because repetition speaks louder than facts, right?
Agree completely. Israel and its leaders continue to slaughter Palestinian civilians and receiving support and aid From Trump’s fascist regime. The BBC and in Australia the ABC are no longer a news outlet but a propagandist outlet for Murdoch, Trump and Netanyahu. History matters, many so called journalist before WW2 supported Hitler and the Nazi regime and their were 100,000’s of British and Australian members of their local fascist parties. In Australia they were called the New Guard. At the same time many more citizens fought these scum who were attacking the unemployed and the Trade Unions. They fascist lost after 10 millions died. Today all democratic nations should Boycott the Israeli and the USA’s economy and all other aspects of their society immediately including sport.
yes the Jews at the top control the mainstream lamestream media AND the so called alternative media with 911 gatekeeper gnome chumpski , army Goodwrench from democracy too late, Christ Hedging - Jew York Times, Julio Asshand the mkultra kid cult kid, Ed Snowjob Snowden like ellsberg from that old Watergate psyop false flag & etc all the heroes they create for us and serve up on a silver platter AND their social media control telling us about the list, who was on the plane and visited the island how many times- when we should instead be thinking about how BOUGHT the fucking island and the New Mexico and Florida mansions the exclusively Jewish billionaires “lobbying” MEGA Grouper bought the $77 million Manhattan townhome and GAVE it to agent Jeffy boy… AND they control education systems like k-12 colleges university grad school etc. they've been brainwashing the living shit out of us for more than few generations. AND wait there's more every single time. check out grayzone genuine journalism on how Jews killed Charlie Kirk. I hope you're familiar with the details of MEGA Group behind Epstein… banking dynasty families and their .00001% super rich Jewish criminal allies call the shots. wake up https://www.miftah.org/Doc/Articles/nov21a2k1.html
Sadly, I’m seeing how despondent you look, as are so many of us - and how our decadence, depravity and moral bankruptcy may well lead to a decimation of our species - a saving grace for our planet frankly until it’s time is up.
What? He thinks we have forgotten how he was defending the illegal genocidal settler colony in the past and his hit piece on Jeremy Corbyn in the Guardian?
What are you talking about? Cool the emotions and communicate
1. https://english.almayadeen.net/articles/opinion/owen-jones-changes-tune-about--israel---from-europe-s-holoca
2.
https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/owen-jones-accused-of-back-stabbing-jeremy-corbyn-by-union-leader-manuel-cortes_uk_57a0a7f2e4b07cb01dd09d72
Your only support for your accusation, "he was defending the illegal genocidal settler colony in the past," is someone else's (also unsupported) accusation.
And you provided no support at all, for a "hit piece on Jeremy Corbyn in the Guardian"; you just linked to a "hit piece" on Owen Jones, in the Huffington Post.
The Huff Po contained a link to something that was (finally) actually written by Jones (still not in the Guardian), which expressed a critical opinion of Corbyn's strategy, but to call it a "hit piece" is beyond hyperbole.
Owen's opinion (nearly a decade ago) was what it was, but what it certainly wasn't, is "a hit-piece."
It was advice. Some of which may have been useful, some of which I don't agree with at all, but clearly a genuine, good-faith opinion.
Thanks for doing the leg work, I'm just so tired, I know that's how they want us, but sometimes someone stepping up to lift the burden is heartwarming. Thank you again 💕
All that waffle. https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/mar/01/corbyn-staying-not-good-enough
Bye troll
Don't blame me for the fact that it took you four days to find your ass, and failed to change a single thing I said: Calling good-faith criticism, a "hit-piece," is still hyperbole, and it's still nearly a decade-old.
Corbyn knows the difference between criticism and "a hit-piece," (having been exposed to plenty of both).
But then again, so would ANY honest person, who (in good faith) reads criticism that includes:
"Corbyn is a man of principle who has repeatedly been on the right side of history. He was arrested for campaigning against apartheid when Margaret Thatcher was denouncing the ANC as terrorists; he supported LGBT rights when it was “loony left” to do so; he campaigned against Saddam Hussein when our government armed the murderous despot; he later opposed the Iraq war. On the big issues of the day – such as public investment in our economy, tax justice, workers’ rights, the housing crisis, the NHS – he is absolutely right."
... and...
"Corbyn is a decent, honourable and principled man."
... but there is no good faith in your reading of Owen's criticism. You just don't have it in you.
In your head, even calling out your malicious trolling, makes me a "troll." 🤷🏻♀️ So be it. 🖕
Maybe the best example of how hyperbolic & extreme your grudge is, is the fact that eight and a half years later, YOU'RE flinging shit, whereas Jeremy & Owen are just fine:
https://www.owenjones.news/p/interview-with-jeremy-corbyn-on-the
As for your link I haven’t forgotten his hit piece gunning for Jeremy Corbyn to be taken down. That’s the purpose of my post
I found your comment by chance. Wasn’t notified of it revolting wretch. You could have found it easily with a simple search. Be gone zionist troll
Asked & answered:
https://www.palestinedeepdive.com/p/coward-journalists-you-will-be-exposed/comment/146595880
But, to let Owen speak for himself, there's also:
https://www.owenjones.news/p/am-i-an-israeli-stooge-a-response
And:
https://www.owenjones.news/p/am-i-really-as-bad-as-netanyahu
You're parroting someone else's accusation... which wilfully exaggerates a near-decade-old complaint... in order to smear, and silence, one of Israel's most vocal critics.
It's not Owen, who's acting like Israel's stooge.
Trying to dismiss him like his opinions don’t matter when he’s been HUGELY outspoken about Palestine. 🇵🇸 ♥️
He endorsed the genocidal settler colony. Palestine was not his to give away.
Owen Jones spoke at a pro-Zionist conference, has advocated the continuation of Zionist theft of Palestinian land, and famously smeared Corbyn as an “antisemite” with no factual basis. Jones is a clever mouthpiece with which to legitimize liberal Zionism and focus on Jewish supremacist feelings over Palestinian lives.
When? Where? What are you talking about? Provide ANY proof to support your character assassination.
Electronic Intifada has several articles by Asa Winstanley about Owen Jones.
You're failing to produce any proof (instead you're trying to task me with digging around on your behalf, to find what you're talking about).
More than that, you're not even referring to something that would qualify as proof (you're referring to a third party, whose accusation you're simply repeating).
IS there any proof of your accusation, that Owen has supposedly, "famously smeared Corbyn as an 'antisemite'"?
Owen Jones should be a nomenie for the nobel peace prize. he is a planetary treasure.
You're spamming someone else's malign opinion. Opinion is not fact. You're literally just gossiping. Maliciously. To slag-off a critic of Israel.
And the opinion that you're spamming, wilfully exaggerates (and partially fabricates), a near-decade-old complaint... in order to smear (and presumably silence) someone who is, right now, one of Israel's most vocal critics.
My response:
https://www.palestinedeepdive.com/p/coward-journalists-you-will-be-exposed/comment/146595880
More importantly (and comprehensively), Owen's responses:
https://www.owenjones.news/p/am-i-an-israeli-stooge-a-response
https://www.owenjones.news/p/am-i-really-as-bad-as-netanyahu
It's not Owen, who's acting like an Israeli stooge. You can tell who Israel's stooges are, by the fact that they're trying to silence Israel's critics.
Personally, I want Owen to KEEP speaking out against Israel's savagery, and I don't trust the motives of anyone who is trying to shut him up.
Owen is a supporter of BDS; he has been for years. You'd know that if you had bothered to click the links, and listen to his response to his accusers.
It's amazing, the level of instant-total-perfection-from-birth, that people (who are themselves anything-but-perfect) demand from someone whom they clearly can't find any CURRENT fault with. Owen's detractors need to reach into the past, and even then, they still need to exaggerate the worst things they can find.
What's the point?
Why do they want to shut down such a vociferous critic of Israel?
Given your propensity to credulously repeat defamation, Olly, and your habit of wilfully-ignoring information that doesn't suit your purposes, you'll have to excuse me, if I don't consider your remembered-opinion, and unsubstantiated claim of "numerous examples," to be infallible.
https://www.palestinedeepdive.com/p/coward-journalists-you-will-be-exposed/comment/146800401
Even your (still) unsupported accusations are past their expiration date.
I'm beyond caring about your personal, self-indulgent, ill-informed grudge. So, goodbye forever.
I've provided the links, for any passers-by who DO have enough integrity to look at Owen's defence against Asa's pointlessly-malicious accusations.
Til Palestine is free none will be. Simple as end of. No it's buts or maybes.
What they learn in Palestine is being used throughout the world. Colonialism always comes home.
@markjcarney , @bob_zimmer_mp ,@cbc ,@cbcnews , @cbcdaybreaknorth ,@cbcvancouver ,@cbcradiocanada ,@cbcindigenous ,@cbcthenational You know the truth - stand up and speak it! Israel is committing a genocide, the Indigenous population of Palestine are experiencing a holocaust!!!! No amount of money in this world is enough to keep your silence. Speak the truth!!! People matter, all life matters - how can you not see that- your silence and inaction are utterly deplorable 🤬
Thank you for this interview with Owen Jones.
I genuinely appreciate that Owen is an outspoken defender of Palestinians & Palestine, as well as a vociferous critic of Israel [and its accomplices in the U.K. (and U.S.) government & media.] His good intentions are unmistakable.
Owen doesn't have the solution; none of us do, because the people in positions of power refuse to represent us, and abuse that power to insulate themselves from us. If our "representatives" represented our will, Israel would be isolated, cut off from trade, and prosecuted in accordance with international law.
So we are all left with the same question that Ahmed Alnaouq asks: "If you were a Palestinian, what would you do?"
•
P.S. It's disappointing to see that there are some malicious character-assassins in the comment section, spreading false & defamatory accusations against Owen. None of them has provided anything to justify their malign spite; they've only provided a link to someone else's equally-unsupported accusation. Vicious gossips, mindlessly parroting each other, can't undo Owen's tireless advocacy.
Israel won’t let in journalists, kill the Palestinian journalists and try to feed the world BS to form the narrative that favors them. They didn’t count on Palestinian journalists and they on the ground live stream thegenocide
And release the files. Don’t care who’s there, don’t care about worldwide ramifications. Release the files. We’ll start from scratch if that’s what it takes! Dam, think of the girls being raped and taped to use for bribery and coercion
Regarding the bad-faith attacks, which falsely claim that Owen "famously smeared Corbyn as an 'antisemite'":
Asa Winstanley's Electronic Intifada hit-piece on Owen, is full of bad-faith inferences, but the following, is the one that launched a thousand trolls. Asa claimed that Owen, "insisted Corbyn apologize for anti-Semitism that he had not even been guilty of."
That claim was never true. Asa provided a link, but his link proved the OPPOSITE. Asa probably counted on malicious trolls being too lazy to click a link & read a tweet. Here it is:
https://x.com/owenjonesjourno/status/978596856765779969
Asa's own link shows that Owen isn't "insisting" on anything; he's SUPPORTING actions that Jeremy had already taken. Likewise, Owen explicitly states that Jeremy is NOT ANTISEMITIC.
Owen's tweet reads:
"Jeremy Corbyn was right to apologise over the mural. Labour is also right to crack down on anti-Semitism wherever it manifests (and it *must*). The attempts to smear Corbyn personally with anti-Semitism are also wholly false."
Owen further-supplements his own defence of Jeremy, by including a link to a Jewish publication, which also defended the fact that Corbyn is NOT AN ANTISEMITE:
https://blogs.timesofisrael.com/jeremy-corbyn-is-an-anti-racist-not-an-antisemite/
It takes a massive stretch — and a spinning back-flip — to get to where Asa landed, considering what Owen ACTUALLY wrote.
The gossipy trolls who descended on this interview, have taken Asa's half-truths, and then half-truthed the half-truths. But they've REPEATED their accusations a lot. Because repetition speaks louder than facts, right?
Agree completely. Israel and its leaders continue to slaughter Palestinian civilians and receiving support and aid From Trump’s fascist regime. The BBC and in Australia the ABC are no longer a news outlet but a propagandist outlet for Murdoch, Trump and Netanyahu. History matters, many so called journalist before WW2 supported Hitler and the Nazi regime and their were 100,000’s of British and Australian members of their local fascist parties. In Australia they were called the New Guard. At the same time many more citizens fought these scum who were attacking the unemployed and the Trade Unions. They fascist lost after 10 millions died. Today all democratic nations should Boycott the Israeli and the USA’s economy and all other aspects of their society immediately including sport.
WAR TAX RESISTANCE!
WAR TAX RESISTANCE!
yes the Jews at the top control the mainstream lamestream media AND the so called alternative media with 911 gatekeeper gnome chumpski , army Goodwrench from democracy too late, Christ Hedging - Jew York Times, Julio Asshand the mkultra kid cult kid, Ed Snowjob Snowden like ellsberg from that old Watergate psyop false flag & etc all the heroes they create for us and serve up on a silver platter AND their social media control telling us about the list, who was on the plane and visited the island how many times- when we should instead be thinking about how BOUGHT the fucking island and the New Mexico and Florida mansions the exclusively Jewish billionaires “lobbying” MEGA Grouper bought the $77 million Manhattan townhome and GAVE it to agent Jeffy boy… AND they control education systems like k-12 colleges university grad school etc. they've been brainwashing the living shit out of us for more than few generations. AND wait there's more every single time. check out grayzone genuine journalism on how Jews killed Charlie Kirk. I hope you're familiar with the details of MEGA Group behind Epstein… banking dynasty families and their .00001% super rich Jewish criminal allies call the shots. wake up https://www.miftah.org/Doc/Articles/nov21a2k1.html
As long as it’s going on in Britain & not the U.S.
Britain never got over the fact that Israel booted them out in ‘48 while its Arab neighbors collaborated with them long after.
Sadly, I’m seeing how despondent you look, as are so many of us - and how our decadence, depravity and moral bankruptcy may well lead to a decimation of our species - a saving grace for our planet frankly until it’s time is up.