Thank you for this thought provoking interview with Dalrymple. He is a lively and thorough historian. His upcoming book will be revelatory. But I don't know why he kept shaking his finger at you about jews and palestinians being close genetic cousins, even after you told him this was common knowledge. That was discomfiting. But I loved the way he confirmed that Palestinians have maintained a continuous unbroken presence in your homeland for over 4000 years, as highly literate pastoralists, with a library at one point that surpassed the glory of the one in Alexandria. That is not common knowledge. But it may be the root source of both Palestinian sumud and Israeli rage. You and your besieged people have what no Israeli will ever have, even as they desperately try to erase you: unbroken ancestral family ties and traditions that are inseparable from your cellular belonging to the holy land. Nothing and no one will ever erase that. Maybe this is what makes the Israelis so violent. They are having a prolonged temper tantrum of grief, jealousy and rage at their essential rootlessness in the face of your people's unquestionable belonging. This just kills them. Maybe it would be better for them to embrace their unique genius and calling as wanderers than to savage their Palestinian kin in an effort to attain your fiercely settled grace by stealing your land and traditions. I think Dalrymple was issuing a challenge to your great writers today when he said that "the Palestinian curse is having been written out of their own history by the bible". There has never been a better time to rectify that injustice. I have read that the subconscious reason why humans torture each other to death is to try to steal their souls. It is a grisly way to say that they want who you are and what you have. I think there are better and more successful ways to learn from each other. I pray that Israel will wake up from its frightened and defensive delusions of grandeur and become a very real and genuine good neighbor to its Arabic kin in the very near future. Dalrymple seemed to think this can and must happen, within the next 20 years! I like how he reminded us that the future can never be predicted because of the hidden ways of the human spirit. But it can certainly be longed for.
Thank you! I could happily listen to 6+ hours more. I am eagerly looking forward to your next conversation. and to your book Ahmed, and William Dalrymple's book. I came across these a while back: "Palestine Mapped - From the River to the Sea in Early Geographic Thought" by Thomas Suárez, and "The Palestine Land Society", an independent non-profit scholarly society dedicated to Palestine’s history, geography, culture, and society going back centuries. Both are treasure troves.
Thank you, great interview! And very interesting this perspective that unfortunately in many cases Palestinians are simply kept out of their own history mainly because their land was too important to various people in so many occasions
In the beginning of Solomon's reign, he received exceptional wisdom and a blessing from God. However, according to 1 Kings 11, his heart turned away from the God of Israel due to his marriage to many foreign wives, who led him to worship other gods. The problem was not that they were non-Israelite, but rather Solomon's turning away from exclusively worshipping the God of Israel.
Due to Solomon's unfaithfulness to the God of Israel, it was announced that the united kingdom would be divided after his death.
Following Solomon's death, the northern Kingdom of Israel and the southern Kingdom of Judah divided and, despite prophetic warnings from numerous individuals such as Elijah, Elisha, Isaiah, Jeremiah, Amos, and Hosea, both kingdoms turned away from the covenant, engaging in idol worship, injustice and disobedience. These acts resulted in the destruction of the Kingdom of Israel in 722/721BC by the Assyrians, followed by the destruction of the First Temple in Jerusalem in 586/587BC by the Babylonians and the exiling of its inhabitants. From the perspective of the biblical author, these were not the random occurrences of politics and history, but rather the consequences of persistent disobedience of the covenant between the God of Israel and the Israelites. The biblical principle that is at play is that God's covenant relationship with his people is inseparable from their faithfulness to him.
Power, military might, wealth or possession of territory never stood as a replacement for obedience.
The biblical prophets have consistently spoken out that restoration is the result of repentance, justice, humility and obedience to God and not of national success alone. The degree to which this principle relates to the modern State of Israel, whether the concept of a covenant should be applied to the modern Jewish state, has and continues to be debated by Jews, Christians, Muslims and secular historians alike. Any debate should be made between the biblical, historical and modern political considerations of the situation.
I was riveted by your discussion with the brilliant William Dalrymple and I didn’t want it to end. Please have him on again. I loved the synergy between you both.
AMAZING #HISTORY! WITH EVIDENCE!
Thank you for this thought provoking interview with Dalrymple. He is a lively and thorough historian. His upcoming book will be revelatory. But I don't know why he kept shaking his finger at you about jews and palestinians being close genetic cousins, even after you told him this was common knowledge. That was discomfiting. But I loved the way he confirmed that Palestinians have maintained a continuous unbroken presence in your homeland for over 4000 years, as highly literate pastoralists, with a library at one point that surpassed the glory of the one in Alexandria. That is not common knowledge. But it may be the root source of both Palestinian sumud and Israeli rage. You and your besieged people have what no Israeli will ever have, even as they desperately try to erase you: unbroken ancestral family ties and traditions that are inseparable from your cellular belonging to the holy land. Nothing and no one will ever erase that. Maybe this is what makes the Israelis so violent. They are having a prolonged temper tantrum of grief, jealousy and rage at their essential rootlessness in the face of your people's unquestionable belonging. This just kills them. Maybe it would be better for them to embrace their unique genius and calling as wanderers than to savage their Palestinian kin in an effort to attain your fiercely settled grace by stealing your land and traditions. I think Dalrymple was issuing a challenge to your great writers today when he said that "the Palestinian curse is having been written out of their own history by the bible". There has never been a better time to rectify that injustice. I have read that the subconscious reason why humans torture each other to death is to try to steal their souls. It is a grisly way to say that they want who you are and what you have. I think there are better and more successful ways to learn from each other. I pray that Israel will wake up from its frightened and defensive delusions of grandeur and become a very real and genuine good neighbor to its Arabic kin in the very near future. Dalrymple seemed to think this can and must happen, within the next 20 years! I like how he reminded us that the future can never be predicted because of the hidden ways of the human spirit. But it can certainly be longed for.
Thank you! I could happily listen to 6+ hours more. I am eagerly looking forward to your next conversation. and to your book Ahmed, and William Dalrymple's book. I came across these a while back: "Palestine Mapped - From the River to the Sea in Early Geographic Thought" by Thomas Suárez, and "The Palestine Land Society", an independent non-profit scholarly society dedicated to Palestine’s history, geography, culture, and society going back centuries. Both are treasure troves.
Thank you, great interview! And very interesting this perspective that unfortunately in many cases Palestinians are simply kept out of their own history mainly because their land was too important to various people in so many occasions
In the beginning of Solomon's reign, he received exceptional wisdom and a blessing from God. However, according to 1 Kings 11, his heart turned away from the God of Israel due to his marriage to many foreign wives, who led him to worship other gods. The problem was not that they were non-Israelite, but rather Solomon's turning away from exclusively worshipping the God of Israel.
Due to Solomon's unfaithfulness to the God of Israel, it was announced that the united kingdom would be divided after his death.
Following Solomon's death, the northern Kingdom of Israel and the southern Kingdom of Judah divided and, despite prophetic warnings from numerous individuals such as Elijah, Elisha, Isaiah, Jeremiah, Amos, and Hosea, both kingdoms turned away from the covenant, engaging in idol worship, injustice and disobedience. These acts resulted in the destruction of the Kingdom of Israel in 722/721BC by the Assyrians, followed by the destruction of the First Temple in Jerusalem in 586/587BC by the Babylonians and the exiling of its inhabitants. From the perspective of the biblical author, these were not the random occurrences of politics and history, but rather the consequences of persistent disobedience of the covenant between the God of Israel and the Israelites. The biblical principle that is at play is that God's covenant relationship with his people is inseparable from their faithfulness to him.
Power, military might, wealth or possession of territory never stood as a replacement for obedience.
The biblical prophets have consistently spoken out that restoration is the result of repentance, justice, humility and obedience to God and not of national success alone. The degree to which this principle relates to the modern State of Israel, whether the concept of a covenant should be applied to the modern Jewish state, has and continues to be debated by Jews, Christians, Muslims and secular historians alike. Any debate should be made between the biblical, historical and modern political considerations of the situation.
Who did it to them?
https://behindthenarrative7.substack.com/p/who-really-created-the-middle-east?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android&r=bpnge
Wondering how the book lands with Palestinians
Ahmed 🙏💯
Thank you so much 😊
I was riveted by your discussion with the brilliant William Dalrymple and I didn’t want it to end. Please have him on again. I loved the synergy between you both.
And looking forward to your new book 📖
And William’s.
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Genocidal illegal euro migrant squatters modus operandi wherever they have gone. #DismantleIsrael